Will Trump and these other nutcases finally give up on this Obama birther nonsense?   2 comments


 This birther nonsense keeps raising its ugly head again and again.  It is all a political ploy.  And to anybody with half a brain its time has run its course.  Palin was even back into this BS the other day.  It just shows how out to left field some of these Republican candidates are.

And the Donald Trump is using it as his main issue!  But maybe this is understandable.  Trump may be a financial wizard and blood thirsty wheeler dealer, but when it comes to many political issues he is on Mars.  The other day he said that if the U.S. commits troops to invading Libya the pay off should be that the U.S. keeps all the Libyan oil!  And he was serious.

And here is the refutation to the Obama birther nonsense again.

This is from FactCheck.org.  It is a really good site that investigates issues and digs for the truth.  It seems to be objective and unbiased.

Donald, You’re Fired!

Trump repeats false claims about Obama’s birthplace.

  
 If Donald Trump worked for us, we’d have to say: “Donald, you’re fired — for incompetence.” The successful developer and TV celebrity says he’d make a good president, and maybe he would — we take no stand either way about that. But when it comes to getting facts straight, he fouls up again and again on the basics of President Barack Obama’s birth. As a rookie reporter, he just wouldn’t make it.
  • He claims the president’s grandmother says Obama was born in Kenya. In fact, the recording to which he refers shows Sarah Obama repeatedly saying through a translator: “He was born in America.”
  • He claims that no hospital in Hawaii has a record of Obama’s birth. Hospital records are confidential under federal law, but Honolulu’s Kapi’olani Medical Center has published a letter from Obama calling it “the place of my birth,” thus publicly confirming it as his birthplace.
  • He insists that the official “Certification of Live Birth” that Obama produced in 2008 is “not a birth certificate.”  That’s wrong. The U.S. Department of State uses “birth certificate” as a generic term to include the official Hawaii document, which satisfies legal requirements for proving citizenship and obtaining a passport.
  • He claims that there’s no signature or certification number on the document released by Obama. Wrong again. Photos of the document, which we posted in 2008, clearly show those details.
  • He says newspaper announcements of Obama’s birth that appeared in Hawaii newspapers in 1961 “probably” were placed there fraudulently by his now-deceased American grandparents. Actually, a state health department official and a former managing editor of one of the newspapers said the information came straight from the state health department.
  • He claims “nobody knew” Obama when he was growing up and “nobody ever comes forward” who knew him as a child. “If I ever decide to run, you may go back and interview people from my kindergarten,” Trump said. Well, two retired kindergarten teachers in a 2009 news story fondly recall teaching a young Barack Obama.

 

The evidence that Obama was born in the U.S.A. is so overwhelming that we haven’t had much to say lately about the sort of bogus claims that Trump repeats. Hawaii’s top official in charge of vital records stated long ago, for example, that the confidential records underlying Obama’s official birth certificate show that he was born in Hawaii and is “a natural born American citizen.”

But when a leading prospect for the Republican presidential nomination embraces and repeats these spurious claims and groundless conspiracy theories on national television, we are forced to wade into this swamp once again. For details of where Trump goes wrong, and full documentation of the facts, please read on to our Analysis section.

 

Analysis

Trump made several incorrect statements of fact in an April 7 appearance on NBC’s “Today Show,” and later in a call-in to MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” In each instance he echoed claims that are often repeated by those who wish to believe Obama is not a natural-born American citizen and thus not qualified under the Constitution to be president.

The proof of Obama’s citizenship has long been apparent to us and, we think, to any reasonable person with a mind open to evidence, regardless of his or her party. The conservative National Review agreed as long ago as July 2009, when it wrote that “a few misguided souls among the Right” had bought into the sort of “foolishness” that Trump now embraces. “Like Bruce Springsteen, he [Obama] has a lot of bad political ideas; but he was born in the U.S.A.,” the Review’s editors said.

The proof is not just the official birth certificate issued by the state of Hawaii, and made public by the Obama campaign in 2008. As we wrote when we published detailed photographs of that document in our “Born in the U.S.A.” article, that document constitutes legal proof of citizenship sufficient to meet all U.S. Department of State requirements for issuance of a passport.

There also were public announcements of Obama’s birth published in Hawaii newspapers shortly after his birth in 1961 (placed there not by his family, as Trump suggests, but based on official state records.) And the state’s top vital records official, Dr. Chiyome Leinaala Fukino, director of the Hawaii Department of Health, issued a statement in 2009 stating that she had “seen the original vital records maintained on file” and that those records, which are confidential under state law, verify that “Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen.”

Donald and Sarah baby, put it to rest and get on with the real issues!

Posted April 25, 2011 by markosun in Uncategorized

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2 responses to “Will Trump and these other nutcases finally give up on this Obama birther nonsense?

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  1. Obama isn’t the first U.S. president to have to deal with this inane nonsense. Even 66 years after his death, there are still rumours kicking around that Franklin Roosevelt was born in Canada.

    There is even still talk about the legitimacy of the otherwise forgettable 1881-85 Chester Arthur presidency. Some claim he was born in Dunham, Que., others claim he was born in Fairfield, Vt. Birth records — which were sloppy to nonexistent at that time — only add to the mystery.

    At that rate, Barack Obama can expect the birthers to still be at it in the 2130s!

  2. Interesting stuff.
    Lots of strange people out there. Just listen to coast to coast am on CJOB at midnight. There are people that will believe the wackiest things. Quite often it isn’t factual evidence, but beliefs.

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